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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
开场很动人，祖与占式的三人望着舞会中央的烟花像风车一样旋转，大喊It’s our mad generation ，然后世界一步一步踏进深渊。但这种借戏外的史实来营造氛围，手法很取巧就是了。另外，希特勒质问德国难道不是到完成使命的时刻那一幕，很有现实感了；以及片中的捷克斯洛伐克：历史上没有位置，历史叙事里也没有位置。
非常好看！历史上有多少改变人类命运的决定，其实涌动在那些拥有大爱的“小人物”身上。人物虚拟，却更似真实。“大人物”除了做决定，能做的很有限，所以历史课本才会那么无聊。
多一星给摄影。我一直都还蛮喜欢这种手持加快切的胶片色画面。
我是不能当总统，这是啥工作啊！大脑超高速运转，要连续工作15个小时，只能在飞机上打个盹儿，吃饭都在思考分析，周旋于各种复杂的政治局势中，妈呀这也太辛苦了！鞠躬尽瘁、被误解、背黑锅、随时有生命危险，稍有不慎就被媒体揪住。太可怜了！
很俗气，也可能是丘吉尔力挽狂澜成为一种认知，很难把二战的结局和张伯伦的绥靖扯上关联。
“We don‘t choose the times we live in. The only choice we have is how we respond. Hoping is waiting for someone else to do it.” 劇中這個德國年輕人，👍
欧洲版荆轲刺秦，结果荆轲输了，秦王也输了……给张伯伦翻案，给英国贴金，我就想问：世界大战“赢得”死缓一年，英国如果真在道德高地，为什么不主动通知欧洲其他国家也做好准备？比如一起签慕尼黑协议的法国后来一触即败；而且这一年，难道只有英国在备战吗？胸有成竹的希特勒难道没有赢得多一年的准备时间？这样想想，电影的narrative building 就显得幼稚至极了。另外英国男主演技很差，一张猿猴脸，永远惊诧木讷状，毫无厚度。他的老婆那条线也完全应该删掉，换成对莉娜角色的加强，这样开头结尾的大学三人行时光才有意义。
拍的不错。但最后给绥靖政策脸上贴金是不是太无耻了点
心脏不好 数次在党卫兵搜查环节暂停 演技精湛 CP我站
毕竟大家都知道…希特勒是个神经病，用什么办法，目的都是一样的
Jannis也太帅了，上一次看到他还是科里尼案里的纳粹，果然德国演员👍
感觉这个框架还是不太有发挥空间的那种，举个例子来说就是Paul意图暗杀希特勒那段，观众会紧张但又知道没必要紧张。
树欲静而风不止，山雨欲来风满楼！或许真如影片所表达的，张伯伦用自己的出丑替后来的丘吉尔争取到了几分胜算也一定。片中德国外交官的立场转变显得有些突兀，另外，“元首”的演员外形实在让人非常出戏。
最后那几行字也是挺一言难尽的。
盎撒式历史虚无主义的集中体现，华丽的场面和养眼的卡司，虚构了战前英德青年官僚本着良知为和平作出的努力，为的居然是强行洗白张伯伦维系短暂的和平而作出的绥靖，仿佛张中堂的所谓“务实”只是忍辱负重的缓兵之计，舍得骂名为帝国赢得战争准备的时间。然而不提傲慢的英国初心更在于祸水东引求得苏德火并，事实是英帝的绥靖是以小弟为代价的慷他人之慨，只为自己置身事外，时隔八十多年，NATO先撩者贱又在乌克兰战场外隔岸观火，历史实在是多么相似，最有意思的是片末说张中堂的忍辱负重为英帝赢得最后的胜利争取了时间，只字不提苏联，仿佛二战是靠英帝打下来的，真是滑天下之大稽。
算是为张伯伦“洗白”的历史电影。聚焦慕尼黑协议签订前后的一系列情报搜集工作和政要动向，作者的观点很简单，不是因为绥靖导致反战，而是因为国内反战的呼声导致绥靖，“需要乃绥靖之母”。很工整，没啥优缺点。
电影挺精彩的，虽然是杜撰，但还是有很强的代入感。有点美化张的感觉。保罗才是真正爱国的人，键盘侠们看看吧
片子本身的素质不错，挺加分的，铁叔还是稳
波谲云诡的政治场，两名＂小人物＂的爱恨与良知。张伯伦看了这片怕是要从棺材里笑醒。
看的时候忍不住刷了一下手机，因为今天早上新闻说美国随时准备出兵乌克兰一旦俄罗斯有任何行动
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