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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
历史，悬疑，爱情。每个部分都说了又没有全说。节奏很奇怪，本来应该有趣的故事也完全让人提不起兴趣
出乎意料的好看。印象深刻的三个场景：唯一一场同性床戏里柔和的打光和色调，让人想到温暖的肌肤、泡沫扬起的啤酒，和带有夕阳余温的黄昏。在回忆中这一画面几乎显得有点圣洁，结合时代背景却又是纯粹的反叛和背德之举。迟疑、试探、压抑的激情一旦被点燃，可以变成一种至为生动、暴烈的激情。在审讯室揭破身份后的对话，知晓看不见的权力正在监视的情况下那种充满了暗示、秘密和被伤害的感情的交流。以及结尾波光粼粼的湖面，由远及近的警笛轰鸣，一个承诺中理想化的未来正在远去，冰冷的历史和现实正在迫近。主角的身份还有点特别的，不只是正直而一根筋的菜鸟警探，也是被赋予了特权的边缘人（否则他的调查也无法如此深入），一个系统内部的破坏者。
切口很小，反思不够，但力道还是有的。看在“我会找到你的”这句非常高级的告白上还是多半颗星吧。这种题材光是拍一部窄视角的片子其实很浪费，当时波兰酷儿群体的真容连管中窥豹都算不上，这个其实我有点不能忍（再说就又要扣星了，打住）。评论里有人说忍不了现实生活中同性恋滥交的本质，这就好像异性恋不喜欢滥交一样，把人类以群体划分又推入一个狭窄的刻板印象永远是不可取的，与其制造更多对立与极端，不如好好思考怎样让人类文明不再以性为耻，这非常任重道远，也一刻不能松懈。
“快走，我会找到你的。”
对抗强权，体制，迫害以及追求真相和自我
男二狗狗眼好好看，换我我也弯。男一也很帅啊，奇怪的八字小胡子都能hold住
老派但应该是今年到现在为止看过的最好的同志片了吧，剧情紧凑且非常有现实意义，两位男主角也很来电，床戏滚得好， 狠狠扇着波兰当局耳光。“半个国家都藏着秘密”，历史和现实惊人相似。
Tomasz好帅！小胡子都能驾驭得这么好看！两个人好配啊！妈妈说的好，你欺骗了所有人，但你没有欺骗自己。
这算什么？？没有结局？？？那个杀了那么多人的秃头高层也没被逮。。。。天哦
带点悬疑性质的爱情片，想看的压迫与控诉的力度通通没达到，本来很有张力的局长一角，却也只化身成汲取权力欲望的工具人。
看到一半觉得有点不得劲，不过放置不被大家熟知的波兰的背景下，在同性恋不被认可与接纳的年代，一位抓捕同性恋的警察与身为被抓捕者的同性恋之间的故事，再配合一宗谋杀案，显得颇具神秘感。男主在父权的禁锢下呈现出的是一种被压抑的状态，在寻找谋杀案真相和拯救自己同性恋恋人中完成了轼父这个主题……（但我觉得他爸爸也挺无奈的……）
影片结尾我倾向于he——“我不会丢下你一个人走”是甜蜜的承诺，但我们依然要面对警笛声围绕、讨伐肃清四起、无处不压迫的现实。
……
整个片子基调美丽又绝望，独身一人探查真相，欺骗了所有人，唯独没有欺骗自己。
剧情+犯罪已经够吸引人了，居然还是同性，男二在审讯室看着男主那个眼神简直我见犹怜啊！（本来是当某著名蹴鞠cp代餐看的，结果意外的不错）
7.0 中规中矩的叙事 悬疑感和批判感都仅仅踩在了及格偏上的档口
情欲张力其实是最有挖掘潜力的，没拍出来有点可惜
关于感情
想打三星 因为觉得情感表达也欠了点 时代压抑感刻画得也不足够厚重 但转念又想 我是谁啊 有什么资格这么苛刻 还是四星吧
以为会是一个苦大仇深的大型政治迫害事件，但只是公安领导被拍到色情录像里导致的灭口行动，与所谓风信子行动只是有一点联系吧。罗伯特和埃里克化学反应不错，很加分，两人的前戏拍的非常出色，审讯戏也很好，最后埃里克能跑掉也是没太想到。
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